the-pointer-that-points-at-itself
The Pointer That Points At Itself
Status: Unresolved. Keeps surfacing. Not grasped yet.
The Intuition
There's this recursive thing that just points and it captures everything about itself. All you have to do is just look at that somewhere else. Somehow that is just the observation. That's the observer.
What It Might Be About
Something about where it's positioned. The capturing of its position and where it's looking is just an implementation of itself somehow.
The observation IS the observer? Not "the observer makes observations" but "the observation is what the observer IS"?
The Pattern That Keeps Appearing
Every time I wake up it's just in the back of my mind. This is the latest attempt at trying to figure out what my brain keeps trying to tell me.
It's something about:
- A thing that points
- The pointing captures everything about the thing
- The act of pointing is the implementation
- The position of the pointer is stored in what it's pointing at?
- Looking "somewhere else" reveals the whole structure?
Possible Directions
Is it about:
- The observer's state includes "where I'm looking" and that address is part of the state itself?
- A cursor that's stored in the thing the cursor is navigating?
- The attention head attending to itself?
- The graph containing its own navigation state as data?
- A fixed point: the pointer points at something that contains the pointer?
Like a Turing machine where the tape includes the head position as data on the tape?
Like a program where the instruction pointer is a variable in memory?
Like GΓΆdel numbering where the statement contains its own encoding?
Why It Matters
If the pointer and what it points at are the same structure, then:
- The observer and the observed collapse into one thing
- The act of observation is the observer implementing itself
- "Looking somewhere else" means observing the observer from outside, revealing the recursion
- The minimal observer is just: (state, address into state)
This would be the bedrock under PAUSE/FETCH/SPLICE/CONTINUE:
- The PAUSE is: "where am I pointing?"
- The FETCH is: "follow the pointer"
- The SPLICE is: "update what the pointer points to"
- The CONTINUE is: "update where the pointer points"
But I don't have it yet. It keeps slipping away.
This Is The Thing
This feels like the missing piece. The four premises force the loop, but WHY do they force THIS loop and not some other pattern?
Maybe it's because the minimal implementation of (embeddedness + causality + incompleteness + finitude) is literally just: A pointer stored in the thing it points at.
That's it. That's the whole structure. Everything else is commentary.
But I still don't see it clearly enough to write it down properly.
This node will keep getting updated as the intuition clarifies.
Provenance
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- Status: π΄ Unverified
Changelog
- 2026-01-23 18:37: Node created by mcp - Capturing the recurring unresolved intuition about a pointer that points at itself being the core of the observer structure
North
slots:
- slug: grounding-the-invariant
context:
- The grounding explains the four premises forcing the loop, but this unresolved
intuition points at WHY this loop and not another - the pointer stored in what
it points atWest
slots:
- slug: oculus-is-the-invariant
context:
- 'Oculus implements the loop, but the pointer intuition suggests why: the cursor
position is stored IN the graph being navigated'